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365-4406<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>U.S. Toll: +1 (303) 248-9655<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Access code: 8040316#<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="https://conf.cfer.com/?sp_id=154&comp_id=345368&an=3032489655&ac=8040316&startview=GOS&login=true">List of international dial-in numbers</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='text-align:justify'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please let me know if you have any additional agenda items, intend to discuss a dormant item or wish to prioritise a topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Alon<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span lang=EN-US><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></b></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;page-break-after:avoid'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:16.0pt;color:black'>Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;page-break-after:avoid'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Corrections to previous minutes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>- Minutes of EGL call 16th July 2014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Future direction of EGL<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/wiki/index.php/EGL/EGLNextGoals">Wiki page for EGL future direction goal discussion</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>Alon – big news from GL Common F2F in Bellevue was the contribution of XGL from AMD and the group agreeing to use it as starting point for GL Common<br>Alon – I raised at the meeting and on the today’s GL Common call how XGL deals with platform integration and interoperation with other Khronos APIs, open issue<br>Alon – need to decide how to take things forwards, identify any problems such as IP zone issue if that's a problem, how we should structure discussions given GL progression.<br>...<br>Alon – If we could make sure that in two weeks time we have that, possibly have some sort of straw poll to see if we have agreement on how to proceed<br>Alon – If you have any suggestions on what I should be doing as chair at this point, always open to them<br><b>[ACTION]<i> All – poll across your company to gauge position on direction, what problem would need EGL-like API to solve, initial proposals for COB PDT 29th July 2014</i></b><i><br></i>[ACTION]<i> All – help engage GL Common group in discussion, understanding of your company’s current thoughts here<br></i>[ACTION]<i> Alon – put out email to GL Common group with information on previous EGL2 discussions, background information<br></i>[ACTION]<i> All – add proposed goals and input to wiki<br></i>[ACTION] <i>Chad – vtable proposal – will draft up what an API would look like<br></i>[ACTION]<i> </i></span><i>Jon – put together matrix of functionality</i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>New proposals<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11550">Bug 11550</a> – Partial update extension</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>Latest spec draft – <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/egl/extensions/drafts/EGL_KHR_partial_update.txt">EGL_KHR_partial_update draft spec</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Ray – Sent an email a week ago explaining a problem – passing damaged regions through to a compositor isn't possible with the API as it is at the moment<br>Alon – Sent on the 6th July at 11:33 UK time, for those who don't have it to hand<br><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> All – consider Ray’s solution to resolving compositor information issue, Antoine’s suggestions<br></i>[ACTION]<i> Jesse – ping Antoine to get his opinion</i></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>- </span><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12459">Bug 12459</a> – Create EGL_KHR_context_flush_control</b><b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;page-break-after:avoid'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION] <i>Jon – open bug</i><b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;page-break-after:avoid'><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10232">Bug 10232</a> – Add Device Enumeration API to EGL 1.x<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>James – Updated specs, need to publish them at the end of the month. Last call for feedback if you have any<br><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION] <i>All – last change for feedback on EXT device extensions before they’re published</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10943">Bug 10943</a> – EGL_KHR_debug debugging API<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION] <i>All – review options and comment on bug</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10091">Bug 10091</a> – EGL_KHR_no_config creating surfaces & contexts without configs<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/egl/extensions/drafts/EGL_KHR_no_config.txt">EGL_KHR_no_config draft spec</a>, </span><span style='color:black'><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/egl/extensions/drafts/EGL_KHR_rgba_no_config.txt">EGL_KHR_rgba_no_config draft spec</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> All – consider fuzzy vs exact match options</i><b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b>- </b><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12127"><b>Bug 12127</b></a><b> – eglSwapBuffers completion notifications<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> Chad – enumerate different types of state</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><b><span style='color:black'>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12230">Bug 12230</a> – Timestamps in EGL and client APIs</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>Alon – KCam WG notified about this, no feedback yet<b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Issues<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12456">Bug 12456</a> - eglMakeCurrent flush behaviour when same context and surfaces are made current<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>New bug<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12457">Bug 12457</a> - Trivial wording updates to EGL_KHR_gl_colorspace<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>New bug<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12072">Bug 12072</a> – No way to completely release an EGLDisplay</b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>Alon – suggest we do a straw poll on next call, see if conclusion between the 3 options<br>James – sounds good to me<br>[ACTION] <i>All – review options and comment<br></i>[ACTION] <i>Alon – post explanation of terminate refcount issue</i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dormant topics</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'> (please indicate before next call if you’d like to discuss these)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>- </span><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10159" title="ASSIGNED - Remove FOURCC dependency and define VX specific formats">Bug 10159</a> – </b><b><span lang=EN-US>Khronos color format proposal<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Andrew – Not accepted into VX 1.0, updates on bug, no longer a rush, hoping that something will go in in 1.1<span lang=EN-US><br>[ACTION]<i> </i></span><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>All – continue providing feedback on bug</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>- <b><a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11606">Bug 11606</a> – GPU Resource Monitoring proposal<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><a href="https://www.khronos.org/members/login/groups/EGL/F2F%20Materials/Phoenix%20Jan14/GPU%20Resource%20Monitoring%20-%20Phoenix%20F2F%20-%20Jan%202014.pdf">GPU Resource Monitoring slides from Phoenix F2F</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> </i></span><i>All – request feedback, especially from SOC teams<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;page-break-after:avoid'><b><span lang=EN-US>- <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11481">Bug 11481</a> – Remove thread restriction for eglSwapBuffers in EGL 1.5<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;page-break-after:avoid;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> <span style='color:black'>Chad – will update bug as discussed (</span>Postponed indefinitely)</i></span><i><o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US>- Streaming / feedback from Cross-API Interop sessions<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt;text-indent:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Discussion page <a href="https://cvs.khronos.org/wiki/index.php?title=OpenCL/EGLStream">https://cvs.khronos.org/wiki/index.php?title=OpenCL/EGLStream</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> </i></span><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>All – provide further topology / use-case feedback<br></span></i><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> Alon/</i></span><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mikael – discuss how to push metadata proposal forwards<br></span></i><span lang=EN-US>[ACTION]<i> </i></span><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Neil – invite StreamInput members to Cross-API session and get topology input</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>